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MikeD · August 13th, 2003, 13:33

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MikeD
I am sitting in my office at the airport and 2 A-10's (UGLY Call Sign) have just done 2 ILS patterns, in loose formation. I understand that on your instrument check rides the examiner flies your wing as you fly the practical portion of the check ride, being the A-10 is single seat. Does the examiner radio you to give yourself an engine malfunction for a single engine ILS? Interesting challenges. I knew an Air Guard A-10 pilot giving an instrument check to another and didn't advance power correctly on the break and stalled the airplane, pancaked in and died, my Commander's son watched it happen.

Great questions to get the gears going again, thanks. Even as an examiner I need to get into the books, as I would have been doing some serious tap dancing on some of thses questions. I absoulutely love the 3 levels of spatial D and with your permission I am going to use the analogy in my presentations on that subject. Well now that my brain hurts, I must go fly.

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650,

Yup, the examiner chases you on the approaches. In fact, in order to log simulated instrument in the A-10, your approaches have to be chased. The examiner will fly along with you on the approaches after getting in formation and getting a comparison-check of airspeed/altimeter. Then they sit back and be....well......standard-issue jerk examiners!

I remember the Air Guard accident you're talking about. Examinee landed out of a chased approach. Examiner went around, pulled closed and stalled the jet in the pattern, killing himself.

The sick and twisted side of me wonders if the examinee was considered to have passed the ride.

I agree, always to grease the wheels again with info that one may have forgotten, which is why I present what I do, since I'm always using most all the info.

And have at the Spatial D scenarios. If it helps people remember it, then all the better....sick aspects of it aside.

August 13th, 2003, 13:33	#12
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: MikeD IFR stuff #3 [ QUOTE ] MikeD I am sitting in my office at the airport and 2 A-10's (UGLY Call Sign) have just done 2 ILS patterns, in loose formation. I understand that on your instrument check rides the examiner flies your wing as you fly the practical portion of the check ride, being the A-10 is single seat. Does the examiner radio you to give yourself an engine malfunction for a single engine ILS? Interesting challenges. I knew an Air Guard A-10 pilot giving an instrument check to another and didn't advance power correctly on the break and stalled the airplane, pancaked in and died, my Commander's son watched it happen. Great questions to get the gears going again, thanks. Even as an examiner I need to get into the books, as I would have been doing some serious tap dancing on some of thses questions. I absoulutely love the 3 levels of spatial D and with your permission I am going to use the analogy in my presentations on that subject. Well now that my brain hurts, I must go fly. [/ QUOTE ] 650, Yup, the examiner chases you on the approaches. In fact, in order to log simulated instrument in the A-10, your approaches have to be chased. The examiner will fly along with you on the approaches after getting in formation and getting a comparison-check of airspeed/altimeter. Then they sit back and be....well......standard-issue jerk examiners! I remember the Air Guard accident you're talking about. Examinee landed out of a chased approach. Examiner went around, pulled closed and stalled the jet in the pattern, killing himself. The sick and twisted side of me wonders if the examinee was considered to have passed the ride. I agree, always to grease the wheels again with info that one may have forgotten, which is why I present what I do, since I'm always using most all the info. And have at the Spatial D scenarios. If it helps people remember it, then all the better....sick aspects of it aside.