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AngelFuree · October 20th, 2006, 00:26

Here's my situation (keeping it short):
(I've already made a decision)

I am a CFII student. I originally had an instructor teaching me CFII. However, he got hired by a regional and couldn't finish teaching me. That's fine, congratulations to him. I had two substitute CFIs after that, one didn't have time to work with me while the next one did. Well, the one that did have time was COMPLETELY irresponsible. He cancelled two lessons on me without calling me. I had to call HIM for him to tell me that they were cancelled. I decided not to take any more #### from him, and decided to not fly with him anymore. I went to complain to the guy in charge of assigning instructors look ing for a permanent instructor. Ok, well after the weekend passed, I got the new instructor. I didn't realize this instructor was a complete new-hire. The first lessons went well because it was just reviewing information from the instrument course. However, getting into the portion where I have to teach showed his lack of experience.

My instructor has never taught any Instrument Rating students before yet he's teaching me CFII. The school is taking advantage of the lack of regulation permitting and CFIIs from teaching non-initial instructor students, and since I have my CFI, then there is no hour minimums for my instructor to teach me. The whole 200 hour dual given requirement (and the other req's) doesn't apply to him since I'm not an initial instructor student.
The first lessons went well, and as such, I decided to continue w/ him for a couple of more lessons. My instructor is very knowledgable, he knows his stuff really well. What's missing is his experience teaching instrument students. He's never taught an instrument student, so there's no way he can share experience with me if he's never dealt w/ an instrument student. All he can do is discuss knowledge, but there's no hands-on experience from his part.
What really did it for me was today's briefing. I felt rushed, and felt his anxiety to get out of that briefing room. I don't want to sound cocky at all (I promise I'm not), but I feel that I'm not the boring type of student/instructor student. My instructor this summer for CFI, on numerous ocassions had complimented me on different aspects of my teaching, and he liked how I wasn't boring like some of his other students, he had mentioned. Good voice dynamics, etc. He enjoyed doing briefings with me and I saw it in his face how he enjoyed sitting down with me as his student. This instructor, however, shows his anxiety to just wanna leave the room and get done w/ the briefing. I feel he's the time-builder-only type of instructor, and that is certainly not conducive to productive training. I was so disconcentrated today by his pen tapping and looking at the clock that I just couldn't teach like I always do. I asked him if he was ok. He asked friendly, "why do you ask?" and I told him I could see his anxiety. He said, "oooh no, I'm not anxious at all! Let's keep going" So I continued, but I couldn't concentrate on the lesson anymore. I was more concentrated on his boredom.

So that really did it for me, and I decided to take a choice and do one more lesson w/ him (tomorrow) and find someone else.

The advice I'm looking from you guys is on how I should approach him. I don't want to make him feel bad 'cause he's certainly a really nice guy, but it's not the type of instructor I'm looking for...

I will also go tomorrow to talk w/ the Chief Pilot here and discuss my situation with him. The Chief Pilot is REALLY nice and understanding, so I'm sure he might be able to help. He's not in charge of assigning instructors, but I want him to know of my dissatisfaction with the school's choice to give me a newly-hired instructor that probably has less than 50 dual given. It's irresponsible, I feel. I'm not gonna go complain to him 'cause it's not his fault, but as the customer and student, I need to let him know aware of my issues and how my money is going into something that isn't productive.

I realize there's no nice/good way of delivering the news to my instructor, but I want to do it in the least of bad ways.

Any ideas?

Shiiiiit, I said it was gonna be short, but it was long, sorry, and thanks a lot to all that read it!

October 20th, 2006, 00:26	#1
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,131	Confronting my instructor Here's my situation (keeping it short): (I've already made a decision) I am a CFII student. I originally had an instructor teaching me CFII. However, he got hired by a regional and couldn't finish teaching me. That's fine, congratulations to him. I had two substitute CFIs after that, one didn't have time to work with me while the next one did. Well, the one that did have time was COMPLETELY irresponsible. He cancelled two lessons on me without calling me. I had to call HIM for him to tell me that they were cancelled. I decided not to take any more #### from him, and decided to not fly with him anymore. I went to complain to the guy in charge of assigning instructors look ing for a permanent instructor. Ok, well after the weekend passed, I got the new instructor. I didn't realize this instructor was a complete new-hire. The first lessons went well because it was just reviewing information from the instrument course. However, getting into the portion where I have to teach showed his lack of experience. My instructor has never taught any Instrument Rating students before yet he's teaching me CFII. The school is taking advantage of the lack of regulation permitting and CFIIs from teaching non-initial instructor students, and since I have my CFI, then there is no hour minimums for my instructor to teach me. The whole 200 hour dual given requirement (and the other req's) doesn't apply to him since I'm not an initial instructor student. The first lessons went well, and as such, I decided to continue w/ him for a couple of more lessons. My instructor is very knowledgable, he knows his stuff really well. What's missing is his experience teaching instrument students. He's never taught an instrument student, so there's no way he can share experience with me if he's never dealt w/ an instrument student. All he can do is discuss knowledge, but there's no hands-on experience from his part. What really did it for me was today's briefing. I felt rushed, and felt his anxiety to get out of that briefing room. I don't want to sound cocky at all (I promise I'm not), but I feel that I'm not the boring type of student/instructor student. My instructor this summer for CFI, on numerous ocassions had complimented me on different aspects of my teaching, and he liked how I wasn't boring like some of his other students, he had mentioned. Good voice dynamics, etc. He enjoyed doing briefings with me and I saw it in his face how he enjoyed sitting down with me as his student. This instructor, however, shows his anxiety to just wanna leave the room and get done w/ the briefing. I feel he's the time-builder-only type of instructor, and that is certainly not conducive to productive training. I was so disconcentrated today by his pen tapping and looking at the clock that I just couldn't teach like I always do. I asked him if he was ok. He asked friendly, "why do you ask?" and I told him I could see his anxiety. He said, "oooh no, I'm not anxious at all! Let's keep going" So I continued, but I couldn't concentrate on the lesson anymore. I was more concentrated on his boredom. So that really did it for me, and I decided to take a choice and do one more lesson w/ him (tomorrow) and find someone else. The advice I'm looking from you guys is on how I should approach him. I don't want to make him feel bad 'cause he's certainly a really nice guy, but it's not the type of instructor I'm looking for... I will also go tomorrow to talk w/ the Chief Pilot here and discuss my situation with him. The Chief Pilot is REALLY nice and understanding, so I'm sure he might be able to help. He's not in charge of assigning instructors, but I want him to know of my dissatisfaction with the school's choice to give me a newly-hired instructor that probably has less than 50 dual given. It's irresponsible, I feel. I'm not gonna go complain to him 'cause it's not his fault, but as the customer and student, I need to let him know aware of my issues and how my money is going into something that isn't productive. I realize there's no nice/good way of delivering the news to my instructor, but I want to do it in the least of bad ways. Any ideas? Shiiiiit, I said it was gonna be short, but it was long, sorry, and thanks a lot to all that read it!