[B767Driver]

Originally Posted by flyguy

Sorry for chiming this in so late, maybe its already been asked but I don't have time to read all 3 pages right now.

My question is, what if it is a parellel entry, in which case you'll intercept the inbound course before crossing the VOR. Then are you expected to take another full turn or proceed inbound from that point? Or, a teardrop for that matter. After the entry, you are on the inbound course. Do you have to ever make a full turn throught the hold if you intercept the inbound course before crosing the VOR. The reason I ask is because our chief instructor has been yelled at by ATC for not taking the extra turn. The next time he shot the exact same approach he did take the full turn as he was instructed the previous time, and ATC asked what he was doing. Can't win either way I guess. So now we are instructed to teach to always ask ATC what they want us to do on a hold course reversal. That's definately a way to never mess it up, but I'm just wondering which controller was correct, and what to do in a NORDO situation.

The guidance is pretty clear that you have to fly a racetrack pattern as it's published. So the entry is not good enough...you've got to fly the racetrack pattern before leaving the fix.