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Old October 17th, 2006, 14:59   #51
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Default Re: Simple Quiz

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Originally Posted by meritflyer View Post
Okay, lets get your answers to these questions -

1) Looking at the VOR-B into KPSP, you are cleared direct to TRM and then approach says "Cessna 12345, cross TRM at or above 4000, cleared for the VOR-B circle to land RWY 31R"

Q: Do you use the holding pattern at TRM as a reversal?
Assuming no one says anything about being cleared for a straight in approach, absolutely. (I'm not sure what "circle to land" has to do with anything)

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2) You are flying an approach into airport X. There is a VOR approach that has a published hold over the IAF. You arrive and tower says "Cessna 12345, cross VOR X at or above 5000, cleared for the VOR approach straight-in RWY X".

Q: Do you use the holding pattern as a reversal?
I don't know without seeing the approach, the surrounding terrain, how I am approaching the IAF, whether the VOR is on-airport of off, whether I am on a feeder route or not, or whether 5,000' is an altitude that would allow me to continue straight in , among other things.

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3) Can you be cleared for "straight-in" on a circle to land?
Huh? What does whether you have to maneuver once at the MDA have to do with whether or not you have to do a PT 8 miles away from it?

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4) You are flying into an airport that has a VOR straight in approach. Arriving, ATC tells you "turn left heading 320, intercept the XXX R-310 which leads straight to the VOR which is the IAF, cleared for the VOR RWY 31 approach"

Q: Do you still need to do the PT (holding pattern) or does that count as a radar vector (I understand you are not on the intermediate segment or fix)?
If I read you right, the vector is, in effect, a vector to join the FAC, although that language is not used. I think that is one of those things that both T and I will agree is what the "clarify" portion of AIM 5-4-9 is designed for. I'd ask whether I was cleared straight in.
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