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Old September 28th, 2006, 14:02   #23
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Default Re: First Couple Year Pay

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Originally Posted by wheelsup View Post
The "clock" is still started when the door closes and brake is released. We are 100% paid for pushback time (in fact the US Air system doesn't even see a "pushback", they see an "out" time which is our "pushback" time).

HOWEVER, the company doesn't count pushback time as FAR block time towards the 30/7, 100/month, or 1000/year limits. So people that were timing out in november or early december using this way of starting the FAR block time will just have to work more.

They went thru various incarnations of starting the clock. Without acars, you can just call in your times, which is why you see express carriers with great on time performance (90%+). A little investigation shows they are calling in pre-fabricated times. Now with acars, they've gone thru various ways of capturing the different times.

But yes, it was changed because people were starting the FAR block time while still sitting at the gate. The company just wants to use us to the fullest extent. I don't know any other carriers that track pushback time for pay and FAR block time for FAR limits like we do. Remember FAR block time is when the aircraft is moving under its own power. Pushback doesn't count toward FAR block.
I have a question. Do most airlines have 13 bid periods, or 12?

Also, if a pilot is limited to 1,000 hours per year, how can average lines at many airlines be 85-95. 85(12)=1,020; 85(13)=1,105. If an airline has 12 bid period, wouldn't that limit lines to about 83, and 13 bid perioid would limit each line to about 77. Just trying to understand how it all works.
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