[kellwolf]

Compass is still owned by NWA. It's still up for debate if they'll get off the ground or if it's some sort of deal to get Mesaba and Pinnacle to slash rates. Last I heard, they were gonna finally start IAD-MSP with one 50 seater (to keep the cert active) and start flying 76 seaters in March. If they're gonna make the March deadline, they better get in gear with actually 1) deciding WHICH airplanes they want to use, 2) getting a training staff (including a CP) going and 3) actually ordering the planes.

The second cert at PCL is already done as far as I know. That was the talk around HQ when I was up there last week. The CERT is there, but no pilots or planes yet. Why? Under our current contract I don't think they CAN do it without pilots from our seniority list. That's one of the things management is trying to get is the authority to use whomever they want to staff the other cert. We get all the NWA flying, the other cert gets everything else they can get, at least that's the deal right now. Our union's already pointing to Freedom and GoJets as examples of where other regional operators have used the same shell game to shaft their employees, and the negotiating commitee has their heels dug in on this one. I'd wager we'd see smaller raises before we'd see Pinnacle Corp (the HOLDING company) operating that second cert w/o our pilots staffing it. Most of the guys doing the dealing already know if they get that, we'd wind up with less money anyway.