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Fox Xray · September 22nd, 2006, 09:55

Due to the UN meeting there have been a ton of TFR's and other stuff going on I cannot post about. I know there have been a ton of A/C that violated the TFR's and WERE scrambled on. There very well may have been something like that in effect.

I would advise against challenging the controllers on this, mainly because we are just the mouthpieces in these instances, very often supervisors or managers are monitoring the sectors during these times and giving orders. Homeland security can get involved as well as other agencies. I am in no way saying that you are wrong, just to pick your battles.

Once on the ground contact the facility and explain that you are simply looking for clarification to understand the operation. If they give you a hard time or blow you off then contact your local politicians and AOPA. Write letters to the editor, get your story out.

The new motto in the FAA is that you are no longer a "user" of the system, you are now a "customer" and like any business if you are unhappy with the service then make a complaint.

Just don't pick your battle on frequency, you will never win that way. Make a note of the day, position, frequency (to ID the sector), and any other pertinent info and save that info to use later in your complaint.

September 22nd, 2006, 09:55	#5
Fox Xray ATC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 436	Re: Class B ad lib? Due to the UN meeting there have been a ton of TFR's and other stuff going on I cannot post about. I know there have been a ton of A/C that violated the TFR's and WERE scrambled on. There very well may have been something like that in effect. I would advise against challenging the controllers on this, mainly because we are just the mouthpieces in these instances, very often supervisors or managers are monitoring the sectors during these times and giving orders. Homeland security can get involved as well as other agencies. I am in no way saying that you are wrong, just to pick your battles. Once on the ground contact the facility and explain that you are simply looking for clarification to understand the operation. If they give you a hard time or blow you off then contact your local politicians and AOPA. Write letters to the editor, get your story out. The new motto in the FAA is that you are no longer a "user" of the system, you are now a "customer" and like any business if you are unhappy with the service then make a complaint. Just don't pick your battle on frequency, you will never win that way. Make a note of the day, position, frequency (to ID the sector), and any other pertinent info and save that info to use later in your complaint.