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Originally Posted by DE727UPS "I don't get it... are you saying Colgan Airlines does like to hire guys from Gulfstream?"
Yeah. I forget the exact quote but he said to Heath he thought the Gulfstream program was a great way to enter the industry. I beg to differ. |
Okay, so Colgan is another among the regionals that take GIA pilots.
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"No. That's really unfair of you."
They went waaaay over the line. Read the transcript. They both were at Gulfstream at one time. I'm not "blaming" Gulfstream, I'm blaming the pilots, but if Gulfstream has such a great CRM program, how could this happen?
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They were over the line. The captain was at TSA and then at GIA as a direct entry captain. F/O was a GIA graduate. Why blame gulfstream CRM? I think the blame should be on PNCL's CRM. You're ignoring the fact it was an accident at PNCL airlines, not Gulfstream, and while the pilots used to be Gulfstream airlines pilots, their training on the CRJ was all with PNCL. All CRJ CRM training was with PNCL. I say training wise, I put the blame on PNCL.
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"GIA and their PFT scheme is nothing compared to what ELSE is happening in this aviation industry. Wages are going down the crap hole. An alternate ego airline to avoid scope/contract issues, GoJets has been formed, and yet no one here has fought against it."
So, that's reason to embrace PFJ schemes. Not following your logic.
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I'm not saying embrace PFT. I'm saying it's just a small portion of the 'wrong' that is happening to our industry. GoJets will probably be the first of who knows how many alter egos. Regionals will continue undercutting others. Yet, search how many threads you find on GoJets, regionals undercutting, etc, and then compare THAT number to how many threads there are on Gulfstream (or PFT). PFT is beaten to death all over this board, while we turn a blind eye to other (and arguably bigger) problems with the aviation industry, like aforementined GoJets.
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"A majority of the posts here are anti-PFT, but no one bothers to mention GoJets alter ego."
So, mention it. Who's going to Gojets as new hires? Where are they coming from?
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Great questions! Someone tell me who's going to Gojets, where they're coming from, etc. Why can't we have threads that explain that alter egos like Gojets are bad for the industry?
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If it wasn't for their scheme, they would have to hire a qualified pilot. It would be an entry level job like anywhere else. No?
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Yeah, true. But they've pretty much always have had that scheme, and it seems to work for them, otherwise, they wouldn't be doing it.