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Old March 21st, 2006, 02:18   #33
DE727UPS
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"A few have gone on with Colgan"

This guy named Heath interviewed there a while back (got hired). He mentioned the guy who interviewed him (last name was Colgan, I believe) told him they like guys from Gulfstream. How do you fight that?

"Their safety record is exemplary"

PCL 3701.

"I think the point is that going to that academy does get you results"

I don't disagree but it's a sad, sad, thing that people go that route. You could say the same thing about being a scab, don't you think? Gets you ahead of a lot of people on the list. Anything wrong with that?

"ignore for a second that the academy "brings down the profession, hurts pilot careers, etc."

Really can't do that. That's the whole point....

"I think you'd have to agree that their training is top notch... the ground school, flight training, and even once you fly the line. This I've gathered from ex-students"

I know two Pinnacle Capts who don't paint such a bright picture. Your results may vary, I guess. Some streamers will be okay. That's not the point. Point is they are paying for a job. That's not, and never will be (I hope) an accepted practice in this biz. You could say Colgan and Pinnacle accept it but line pilots should never cut these guys any slack for what they did.

"And, also consider that Gulfstream has always 'hired' their F/Os through the academy. In another words, those right seats were never open to anyone else. A CFI couldn't come into the right seat and fly the Beech 1900 unless he/she went through GIA. So, it's not like students who pay the $30k are "taking" a job from a qualified pilot.... that job was never "open" to anyone BUT the Gulfstream Academy student"

Oh come on. And we were having such a nice, un-FSA forum like, respectable discussion. That's the biggest bunch of BS I've ever heard of. Semantics. Gulfstream gets around hiring F/O's by renting out the seat for a period of time. It's sick. You can play around with the wording of it to make it look pretty but it boils down to the same thing. PFJ. Just another nail in the coffin of lowering the bar in this industry.

"I've checked my past postings regarding Gulfstream, and I see that my posts were extremely negative regarding Gulfstream."

Where the hell have you been? It's not just me saying this stuff. Do a search at APC or flightinfo.

"Ignoring the PFT aspect, Gulfstream would be top notch."

Nobody should ignore PFJ. Ever.....

"I apologize DE, now I'm just ruffling your feathers"

There....you did it. HEHE....
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