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Originally Posted by sleepy3528 bob.... i am speechless at your stupidity. you havent proved your point... all you have proven is that the gene pool needs more chlorine. First you have done nothing to prove that PFT has not lowered the starting salaries of other regionals or stolen jobs away from other pilots. all your saying is that , in your very questionable and laughable wisdom, you agree that it is ok for these asswipes to pay to do a job that other more qualified people have worked hard to get. You agree that it is okay for management to accept this low time rich kid over someone who is more experienced, knowledgeable, and in most cases a little older (possibly more mature). how is this okay? do you agree with this because an airlines group of bean counters has allowed it? a group of people with little or no flight experience that will do anything to save a dollar even if it compromises safety! You and people like you, who are to short sighted to see the harm being done, are why WE hate PFT/PFJ. If you have used one of these programs i would consider you a ##### of the industry.... management has just used and abused you and your too stupid to realize it.
for all those asking if this took into account programs like UND, ERAU, Perdue,.... i really dont think this applies to those programs. ALl of those are basically just part 141 programs that can get you done quickly but still demand high standards. I believe the original posters and many of the follow up posters have been very specifically talking about PFT/PFJ places where you are given time in a part 121 or 135 aircraft working for a negative salary or severly decreased salary. i personally graduated from a part 141 college and it was a very good experience. wouldnt reccomend the pro pilot majors as they arent a good fall back if you lose your medical or something else comes up. and i am done |
I am a 900 hour CFI/CFII/MEI and lets say I want to work for Gulfstream as a F/O. Guess what, I can't unless I go through their F/O program and pay big bucks to do so. Now, knowing this, how is the job stolen when you can't get it unless you go through their program. Why can't people understand this! This is like saying the imigrants are taking our jobs. Well, how many americans are lined up to take a job in a farm field picking crops for minimum wage. Thats right, none! How many CFI's are lined up to take a job as a Gulfstream F/O? Thats right, none. You can't steal what you can't take.
PFT, or PFJ is not killing the industry. Pilots taking huge paycuts are killing the industry. As I said in a previous post, which noone has denied or argued against, pilots at the majors who took concessions to keep their jobs openned management's eyes. If these guys are willing to take a pay cut, let's see how much we can get. This flows back to the regionals and lowers the pay for all involved. I can't help this fact, nor can every pilot banning together kill PFT, it is a matter of economics.
BTW, there is a new one on the market, or atleast new to me, it is called Jet University. Same business model as Gulfstream, but now you can buy a job in the right seat of a 727. This company is a Gulstream company, and I have no clue who they have an agreement with. I saw it in the March issue of Flying