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Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver Seth,
I do have problem with the fast track programs and have flown & jumpseated with people from those programs and was less than impressed and actually had serious WTF are you doing questions about some of their actions in the cockpit. Again, you cannot teach experience in a classroom.
Secondly, I do understand that the right seat is somewhat of a learning seat. However, the captain shouldn't have to play the role CFI, He/she should be more of coach at best. I have little patients for a person that doesn't know memory items or limitations. I am not talking about a number or two here and there. We are talking complete checkilists and nothing about the engine limts...WOW how did that person make it out of SIM...
Lastly, everyone in this industry deserves respect until they show they don't. But if I have to listen to one more low time FO tell me why he/she should be captain because of any school I going to slap him/her. Yes, I have seen an airline upgrade a person with 8 months of airline experience and met the bare minimum requirements for the upgrade....
Sorry for the long posts but some things in the industry just absolutely drive me nuts
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See i agree with you, Im not saying everyone coming out of these cookie cutter flight schools is a superb all knowing pilot, i just hate to say that the school is bad because of it, i think it is based more on an individual person more than anything, my first CFI came from ATP, got a job at the local FBO and started instructing, he was one of the best instructors i ever flew with, he had a severe attention to detail attitude, was incredibly booksmart, and squared me the hell away!! I agree though if people are getting hired on that can't remember checklists and/or engine limits, lacking total regard for the performance of the aircraft they are flying then they are a #####bag that should have never gotten hired on at an airline...but i think it should be blamed on them (for being a lazy ass) and the personnel department at the airline for hiring somebody like that, now i know that there are probabally more worse than better, but i don't feel it should be blames on the school....
I agree with what you said about respect but, the way it was initially worded was "people who come from these schools will have no respect from me!!!" which i don't agree with,
You can not teach experience in the classroom...very true...
-Seth L.
I should say though that when i wrote my opinions I had primarily thought of ATP...for being fast paced high output school...