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Originally Posted by seagull Whether the ODP is required in the scenario given (night or IMC) is a function of what part of the regs you're operating under. If you are under 121 you are required to fly it, and that is ALPA policy on the issue as well. ATC can assign something different, but the caution is that they will also approve something different if you request it, even though you are not legal to do that. A good example is people that ask for a VMC climb out of SLC to avoid heading West to gain altitude before crossing the mountains to the East. That is perfectly legal if you are not 121 or a turbojet operating under 135. Otherwise, I hope you have a legal exemption from the folks in D.C. (a letter from your POI may or may not be of any help at the hearing, but historically it is not worth anything). |
I cannot find where Part 121 requires the ODP to be flown. Do you have a reference?
My company manual requires the SID or ODP to be flown...so from that standpoint...I know I have to fly it. It also give radar vectors from ATC a higher priority than the ODP...so if I'm given an ATC assigned clearance...it takes precedence over the ODP...consistent with your post above.
I have no idea if my Part 121 airline has an exemption from DC not to fly the ODP...but my FAA approved airway manual insert for my company has specific procedures to fly the VMC climb over the mountains out of KSLC.