[TonyC]

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Tony for you to insinuate that out of some sick pathetic need for attention I created a fictious person and situation for the soul purpose of my own entertainment is both sickning and utterly reprehensible.

What is sickening is that you refuse to take action to responsibly address the problems you described in Post #1.

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

How dare you say the things that you did about myself and my character when in fact you know absolutely nothing about me. I am a member in good standing of this board and not only can Doug & Kristie personally vouch my character so can several other member on this board who have had the unique pleasure of meeting me in person.

I suppose it's my great loss that I've not had that unique "pleasure." But you know what, Jenius, it's not about you. It's about a woman and her children, and the bodily harm that threatens them. If they are not in harm's way, you lied to us in Post #1.

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

I personally think that you owe me an apoligy. You can choose to do that or not it's up to you. Another thing I simply will not allow you to do is to assume that I did absolutely nothing for Vernetta.

I don't owe you an apoligy, whatever that is, or even an apology. I, along with several other members, have been patient and helpful. Your character witness, Kristie, has also offered advice that you ignored. I resorted to a more blunt approach in an attempt to get your attention. Clearly, that approach also failed. However, I do not regret taking that approach, nor will I apologize for doing it.

You did something for her, alright, and I'll address that below.

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

I listened to her gave her advice,offered her assistance.Offered to help her get in touch with a domestic violence councelors. I counceled her on how to be assertive,demand respect and regain her own personal power and assert herself in her current situation.

I spoke to my mother a licensed psychologist with a PH.D in education to get advice on how to help her. I gave her numbers to the nearest shelter. Offered to go to court with her if she got the restraining order and be either a witness or just be there to support her in the proceedings.

She choose on all fronts to not only ignore my offer of assitance but that of her own family and her dearest friends. Yet you accuse me of not supporting her and not being a true friend. Bull#####!!!

This started in July and I was there from the beginning. Where were you? I listened to what each and everyone of you had to say. I appreciate all the advice you have offered me in this situation. But just because you offered the advice I am by no means contractully bound or obligated to take it.

Have you Tony ever heard of words called boundries,enabler or co-dependent.

Funny you should ask that, Jenius. Yes, I've heard of those words. Wanna guess which one describes you? By allowing her to drag you along and listen to your "counsel," you have become an enabler. You are feeding into her sickness, and not actually helping her. A true friend would do what is good for her, despite her protests to the contrary. It's so easy to pick up the phone and dial 911, but you refuse. You are a participant in the drama.

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

You simply no matter what the case can't help someone that is simply unable or unwilling to help themselves first. Help has been offered.

Did you even read the first post you wrote? The woman and her children, if you accurately describe their situation, don't just need help, they need a rescue. 911

She doesn't need your advice, she doesn't need your ear, she doesn't need your momma's degree, she needs to be rescued.

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Let me put this in an example that even you might possibly begin to understand.

Your son wants to be a pilot. "He says dad I want to be a pilot and attend XYZ flight academy tution cost $54k." You love your son and want him to suceed in life so you give him the $54k.

NOPE. Already wrong. Son already knows that what he wants in life, he'll have to work for. The preferred method is to study hard, get good grades, and earn scholarships. The next method is get a job and earn the money. He already knows I'm not paying his way. No free rides.

That's because I love my kids, and I want them to succeed in life.

Sorry to screw up your story.

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Yes I understand that. But Tony is on a roll first attacking R2F now me. Saying that I created this thread to somehow satisy a sick deep dark desire for attention and drama.

I did not attack ready2fly, and I did not attack you. I made several posts patiently offering you advice. With each post where it appeared you were unwilling to follow the advice of the majority of contributors to this thread, I became more stern. Even at my sternest, I did not use the word "ass" or "jackass" -- you interjected that, and made the comparison to ready2fly's attack on me.

My suggestion that you have misrepresented the situation is simply an analysis, a possible explanation for why you refuse to take anyone's advice. Either you're being stubborn and stupid, or it's not really as bad as you first post described.

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Yet the constant over all theme going on here is that I'm an ass.

Let's be clear here. I did not call you an ass. Because of your refusal to heed advice given to you by practically every contributor to this thread, I called you a moron.

Please, convince us you're not. I'll be happy to retract the comment when you demonstrate you don't deserve it.

Alas, it appears that nothing will persuade you to do the right thing. I can only take comfort that I don't receive any Phoenix newspapers, and will likely not read about the woman's death.

You won't enjoy that comfort, now, will you?





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