jetcareers - View Single Post - What's the beef? *Pan Am Admin Please Read*

FLDiver · March 16th, 2003, 15:12

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I've been following this board for the past few months and have noticed a dramatic increase in negative comments towards Pan Am.

Perhaps if we all step back for a moment, collect our thoughts and clearly list what changes you think need to be made at the school, maybe it'll actually happen.

Use this thread, clearly list what your situation is and suggest a possible solution.

Believe me, Pan Am monitors this forum far more than you realize.

Keep it short, concise and forward-looking and I think you'll have the best chance of having your situation resolved.

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Perhaps everyone (except the Pan Am Admin.) are starting to realize things and see things a little more clearly. I recall many people stating that Pan Am doesn't monitor these boards and the students don't have time to read them...this seems not to be the case..I believe Casosa can attests to that. I just read Tired's last post about Pan Am putting up a list of recent hires but only had a hand in half of them. I have stated this in that past as well, Pan Am likes to deceive people. If you were a brand new prospective student and saw the "recent hire" list...you would just assume that they were all Pan Am grads and would really be inclined to sign on the dotted line, wouldn't you?...Pan Am is good at deception.
Also, these boards can be used as a source of proof that Pan Am (Admin.) could give a crap about their students...since they DO monitor these boards, they are well aware of the multitude of complaints from ex-students, current students, and employees and have done absolutely nothing to change things around.
So, as far as having something productive to say...Brief Times need to be charged for "brief" time not flight time, students already pay enough just for the flight time. Students should pay for what they are getting, they shouldn't pay for what they aren't getting. A student could really care less what payment arrangement the instructor has with the school. It seems that Pan Am doesn't really pay their instructors directly, it seems that the students account bears all of this weight. Then Pan Am schedules instructors for back to back flights with little or no brief time for students. So, WHY are students paying so much for brief times that they dont get??? Pan Am needs to change how they pay their instructors. They need to pay them a flat rate per flight and then the instructor can put in seperate paperwork for extra ground or brief time. This post is getting a little lengthy so I will stop for now...many more thoughts to come !!!

March 16th, 2003, 15:12	#16
FLDiver Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 118	Re: What\'s the beef? Pan Am Admin Please Read [ QUOTE ] I've been following this board for the past few months and have noticed a dramatic increase in negative comments towards Pan Am. Perhaps if we all step back for a moment, collect our thoughts and clearly list what changes you think need to be made at the school, maybe it'll actually happen. Use this thread, clearly list what your situation is and suggest a possible solution. Believe me, Pan Am monitors this forum far more than you realize. Keep it short, concise and forward-looking and I think you'll have the best chance of having your situation resolved. [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps everyone (except the Pan Am Admin.) are starting to realize things and see things a little more clearly. I recall many people stating that Pan Am doesn't monitor these boards and the students don't have time to read them...this seems not to be the case..I believe Casosa can attests to that. I just read Tired's last post about Pan Am putting up a list of recent hires but only had a hand in half of them. I have stated this in that past as well, Pan Am likes to deceive people. If you were a brand new prospective student and saw the "recent hire" list...you would just assume that they were all Pan Am grads and would really be inclined to sign on the dotted line, wouldn't you?...Pan Am is good at deception. Also, these boards can be used as a source of proof that Pan Am (Admin.) could give a crap about their students...since they DO monitor these boards, they are well aware of the multitude of complaints from ex-students, current students, and employees and have done absolutely nothing to change things around. So, as far as having something productive to say...Brief Times need to be charged for "brief" time not flight time, students already pay enough just for the flight time. Students should pay for what they are getting, they shouldn't pay for what they aren't getting. A student could really care less what payment arrangement the instructor has with the school. It seems that Pan Am doesn't really pay their instructors directly, it seems that the students account bears all of this weight. Then Pan Am schedules instructors for back to back flights with little or no brief time for students. So, WHY are students paying so much for brief times that they dont get??? Pan Am needs to change how they pay their instructors. They need to pay them a flat rate per flight and then the instructor can put in seperate paperwork for extra ground or brief time. This post is getting a little lengthy so I will stop for now...many more thoughts to come !!!