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Merlin · September 15th, 2005, 15:49

Jason,

Im from Dallas and went to Monarch to get current again as a private pilot after a long layoff with about 100 hours. Shortly after I began flying at Monarch, I discovered ATP and never looked back. I am now flying for ExpressJet and at the time of my ExpressJet interview, my instructor at Monarch was still there flying single engine Cessna's around.

Here's the deal with Monarch... they are simply an FBO. The largest in Dallas, no doubt, but an FBO nonetheless. All their prices are by the hour and are based on you taking the exact number of hours to get through their program. THAT NEVER HAPPENS. Your flights, instead of being an hour long each, will end up being 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4. Those little points add up real fast. Furthermore, the Addision Airport is the busiest towered, single runway airport in the nation. You will frequently burn 15-20 minutes just waiting the take off.

ATP on the other hand is flat rate, so the worry about how much this day is costing you is moot. Also, ATP instructors are paid a salary vs. hourly and thus have no incentive to fly a tenth or two longer to eek out a few extra bucks. In fact, ATP instructors are penalized fairly severely for exceeding the allocated amount of time for each training pairing.

FBO training is just fine and Monarch is very good and successful at it. I would recommend anyone to them who wanted to be a private pilot. But, if you want to be an airline pilot and you want to get there in the shortest amount of time possible, then ATP is the place to do it. Period.

Good luck,
Jeremy

BTW: ATP is part 61 because it gives them the flexibility to model their training program as they see fit and removes the government regulated overhead and paperwork of following the 141 rules. They couldn't do what they do in the time and price if they were a 141 school.

September 15th, 2005, 15:49	#8
Merlin Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 142	Re: Considering ATP, but also Monarch Air Jason, Im from Dallas and went to Monarch to get current again as a private pilot after a long layoff with about 100 hours. Shortly after I began flying at Monarch, I discovered ATP and never looked back. I am now flying for ExpressJet and at the time of my ExpressJet interview, my instructor at Monarch was still there flying single engine Cessna's around. Here's the deal with Monarch... they are simply an FBO. The largest in Dallas, no doubt, but an FBO nonetheless. All their prices are by the hour and are based on you taking the exact number of hours to get through their program. THAT NEVER HAPPENS. Your flights, instead of being an hour long each, will end up being 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4. Those little points add up real fast. Furthermore, the Addision Airport is the busiest towered, single runway airport in the nation. You will frequently burn 15-20 minutes just waiting the take off. ATP on the other hand is flat rate, so the worry about how much this day is costing you is moot. Also, ATP instructors are paid a salary vs. hourly and thus have no incentive to fly a tenth or two longer to eek out a few extra bucks. In fact, ATP instructors are penalized fairly severely for exceeding the allocated amount of time for each training pairing. FBO training is just fine and Monarch is very good and successful at it. I would recommend anyone to them who wanted to be a private pilot. But, if you want to be an airline pilot and you want to get there in the shortest amount of time possible, then ATP is the place to do it. Period. Good luck, Jeremy BTW: ATP is part 61 because it gives them the flexibility to model their training program as they see fit and removes the government regulated overhead and paperwork of following the 141 rules. They couldn't do what they do in the time and price if they were a 141 school.