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dakovich · March 25th, 2005, 13:59

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Well I've had two instructors tell me this was OK . Of course you have to "clear" the departure runway during the Upwind leg first before turning crosswind.

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this is my BIGGEST pet peeve (sp?). just because someone tells you you can do something doesn't mean you should. i don't care if its a CFI, another fellow pilot, your chief flight instructor, some jackass client you're flying around, anyone! you need to analyze things for yourself, and ask the question; "is this operation as safe as it can be, or is their maybe a better, safer way to do things".

most students fly the way they were taught, be that good or bad. We as CFIs aren't immune to that unfortunate reality, and we too fly as we were taught. so if i was taught to enter the pattern at an uncontrolled airfield incorrectly as a private student then thats how i'm going to teach my students when i become a CFI. that is unless i take a proactive roll to my training at any level form student to ATP and start asking questions, and researching topics to make certain i'm doing things the best and safest way i can (and try not be afraid to work WITH the FAA/FSDO and not AROUND them to promote safety and learning).

March 25th, 2005, 13:59	#61
dakovich Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,061	Re: Entry on the 45 busts FARs? [ QUOTE ] Well I've had two instructors tell me this was OK . Of course you have to "clear" the departure runway during the Upwind leg first before turning crosswind. [/ QUOTE ] this is my BIGGEST pet peeve (sp?). just because someone tells you you can do something doesn't mean you should. i don't care if its a CFI, another fellow pilot, your chief flight instructor, some jackass client you're flying around, anyone! you need to analyze things for yourself, and ask the question; "is this operation as safe as it can be, or is their maybe a better, safer way to do things". most students fly the way they were taught, be that good or bad. We as CFIs aren't immune to that unfortunate reality, and we too fly as we were taught. so if i was taught to enter the pattern at an uncontrolled airfield incorrectly as a private student then thats how i'm going to teach my students when i become a CFI. that is unless i take a proactive roll to my training at any level form student to ATP and start asking questions, and researching topics to make certain i'm doing things the best and safest way i can (and try not be afraid to work WITH the FAA/FSDO and not AROUND them to promote safety and learning).