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flyover · February 26th, 2005, 19:01

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My friend who works in mx, for another carrier with a substantial 747 operation said that 2 in flight shut downs per week on the 747s with the flight continueing and the passengers never finding out is nothing out of the ordinery.

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Agree with others that this sounds excessive. But there are many scenarios I can see where, on a 4 engine airplane, you would continue. I'm just saying that 100' AGL on takeoff on a LAX to LHR leg is not one of them.

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He also pointed out that it took 18 months for a 747 to fly accross the Atlantic and land with all engines operating - it was such a feet they had a party to celebrate.

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Got to throw the bs flag on that one.

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And for not having the ability to go around, it is not always a luxury in some circumstances - on a 747 if you have 2 engines out and flaps at 20 you no longer have the option.

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Yeah that's a tricky situation. Almost running yourself out of fuel so that you can't go around is not something you want to do many times in your career. It is all related to their decision to continue the flight with an engine out, thereby expending their reserves. The faulty pump just iced the cake.

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At some point one has to trust that the people tasked with overseeing flight safety have looked at the various scenarios with dispassionate, but highly informed and educated, knowledge and deemed it safe. Three very experienced flight crew operated to company SOPs, themselves approved by the CAA.

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Yeah, on the other hand you have to know that sometimes bad decisions are made. Pressures of schedule and cost take over and not so "dispassionate" decisions are made. When it happens you look it over and put procedures in place to make sure it doesn't happen again. If it's BA policy that the 4th engine is optional for trans-Atlantic flights and the authoritites buy off on it, more power to them (or less as the case may be).

February 26th, 2005, 19:01	#17
flyover Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,389	Re: What would you do if .... ? [ QUOTE ] My friend who works in mx, for another carrier with a substantial 747 operation said that 2 in flight shut downs per week on the 747s with the flight continueing and the passengers never finding out is nothing out of the ordinery. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with others that this sounds excessive. But there are many scenarios I can see where, on a 4 engine airplane, you would continue. I'm just saying that 100' AGL on takeoff on a LAX to LHR leg is not one of them. [ QUOTE ] He also pointed out that it took 18 months for a 747 to fly accross the Atlantic and land with all engines operating - it was such a feet they had a party to celebrate. [/ QUOTE ] Got to throw the bs flag on that one. [ QUOTE ] And for not having the ability to go around, it is not always a luxury in some circumstances - on a 747 if you have 2 engines out and flaps at 20 you no longer have the option. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah that's a tricky situation. Almost running yourself out of fuel so that you can't go around is not something you want to do many times in your career. It is all related to their decision to continue the flight with an engine out, thereby expending their reserves. The faulty pump just iced the cake. [ QUOTE ] At some point one has to trust that the people tasked with overseeing flight safety have looked at the various scenarios with dispassionate, but highly informed and educated, knowledge and deemed it safe. Three very experienced flight crew operated to company SOPs, themselves approved by the CAA. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, on the other hand you have to know that sometimes bad decisions are made. Pressures of schedule and cost take over and not so "dispassionate" decisions are made. When it happens you look it over and put procedures in place to make sure it doesn't happen again. If it's BA policy that the 4th engine is optional for trans-Atlantic flights and the authoritites buy off on it, more power to them (or less as the case may be).