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Old September 30th, 2004, 20:18   #9
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Default Re: First solo in actual

A good way to think of it is "VFR on-top." Now, that's an IFR clearance, but you still need VFR conditions to get it. If you can see three miles in front of your face it's visual. Personally, I still think night w/o horizon should be IFR, but the FAA tends to disagree....
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