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flyover · August 20th, 2004, 12:07

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But if we close down the borders to all but US citizens (and I suppose the citizens of the 20 other countries that let us just send our people over with no visas since they extend that courtesy to us) would it really make us safer? Timothy McVeigh was the all-American boy, after all. John Walker Lindh joined al Qaeda, and so did Jose Padilla. And then there are the Brits and Aussies as well.

As for the musicians, I said they were bungholes. But bunghole does not equal terrorist. Otherwise, the guy who took a dump on the serving cart would be rotting in Gitmo right now.

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Well, again, their behavior was the crux of the problem. Remove that and there arabness would have not caused a problem. (Although I still suspect they were the reason FAMs were assigned to the flight). No need to document anymore that more people then Jacobsen, including the crew, and the FAM found reason to suspect their behavior.

As to the border. My point is that it is not a civil liberties issue. Every country has the right to defend it's borders and allow entry as it sees fit.

And I hope you are right that our biggest threat now comes from non-arab, non-muslims. If we can eliminate them from the equation we are in pretty good shape. I've always said a threat is a threat. Prior to 9/11 our biggest threat for violence in the air was a white american male on prozac. These were the guys flipping out and having to be restrained by passengers. Airliners have had restraint devices onboard for years because of that. So one threat at a time.

August 20th, 2004, 12:07	#63
flyover Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,389	Re: NWA 327: Dry run for terrorists or misundersta [ QUOTE ] But if we close down the borders to all but US citizens (and I suppose the citizens of the 20 other countries that let us just send our people over with no visas since they extend that courtesy to us) would it really make us safer? Timothy McVeigh was the all-American boy, after all. John Walker Lindh joined al Qaeda, and so did Jose Padilla. And then there are the Brits and Aussies as well. As for the musicians, I said they were bungholes. But bunghole does not equal terrorist. Otherwise, the guy who took a dump on the serving cart would be rotting in Gitmo right now. [/ QUOTE ] Well, again, their behavior was the crux of the problem. Remove that and there arabness would have not caused a problem. (Although I still suspect they were the reason FAMs were assigned to the flight). No need to document anymore that more people then Jacobsen, including the crew, and the FAM found reason to suspect their behavior. As to the border. My point is that it is not a civil liberties issue. Every country has the right to defend it's borders and allow entry as it sees fit. And I hope you are right that our biggest threat now comes from non-arab, non-muslims. If we can eliminate them from the equation we are in pretty good shape. I've always said a threat is a threat. Prior to 9/11 our biggest threat for violence in the air was a white american male on prozac. These were the guys flipping out and having to be restrained by passengers. Airliners have had restraint devices onboard for years because of that. So one threat at a time.