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jerrywhite7 · September 5th, 2009, 13:21

hey I see it like this . . . Local company calls looking for an FO to fly a King Air, Citation, Merlin, whatever for a quick trip . . . As a new FO you are not quailifed to fly. Sure maybe on paper (Commerical multiengine Land) but really, are you . .how much true "commerical large turbine crosscountry time do you really have? How many times have you as a flight instructor, or pipeline pilot have you been in the upper flight levels? Mountain Flying? Making tough inroute decisions? The answer of course is hardly anytime at all!
So what good are you to these guys (again, they are not "hiring" you for free)? They need someone to set up front because of insurance or passenger comfort knowing there are two pilots up there. Or it is a cool capt'n who is trying to help a low time pilot.
So let's review . . . You have a whomping 1,500 hours (mostly local time, little multi time, and not much cross crountry) and let's be honest, the time you have as a flight instructor is not YOU flying. It is you teaching . . . not flying for yourself but teaching. . . BIG DIFFERENCE HERE!

So you get offered the chance to get into something "bigger", what do you bring to the table that really "quailifies" you to be paid. Infact, you know that you are really lucky to get the oppertunity to fly the bigger stuff, get to log the time, and get experiences of true commerical flying.

Now, let's look at it from your Capt'n point of view, are you really "helping" him out up front? Not really. Sure your on the radios or getting to hand fly or set the autopilot, but he is having to show you and look over your shoulder so you dont screw it up. YOU ARE BEING TAUGHT! YOU ARE GETTING THE EXPERIENCE! What are they getting? Not much .. .

That is what I mean by flying for free . . . not "pay for flying" or being hired for free, but getting the oppertunity to fly!
To many guys right now think they should be Paid to fly in this situation . . . really????!?!?!??!!? Many of my buddy flight instructors passed up oppertunities like this . . . because they wanted money.

Love to hear what you might think. .. .

September 5th, 2009, 13:21	#16
jerrywhite7 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Around KAUS Posts: 140	Re: Changing over at 39...update hey I see it like this . . . Local company calls looking for an FO to fly a King Air, Citation, Merlin, whatever for a quick trip . . . As a new FO you are not quailifed to fly. Sure maybe on paper (Commerical multiengine Land) but really, are you . .how much true "commerical large turbine crosscountry time do you really have? How many times have you as a flight instructor, or pipeline pilot have you been in the upper flight levels? Mountain Flying? Making tough inroute decisions? The answer of course is hardly anytime at all! So what good are you to these guys (again, they are not "hiring" you for free)? They need someone to set up front because of insurance or passenger comfort knowing there are two pilots up there. Or it is a cool capt'n who is trying to help a low time pilot. So let's review . . . You have a whomping 1,500 hours (mostly local time, little multi time, and not much cross crountry) and let's be honest, the time you have as a flight instructor is not YOU flying. It is you teaching . . . not flying for yourself but teaching. . . BIG DIFFERENCE HERE! So you get offered the chance to get into something "bigger", what do you bring to the table that really "quailifies" you to be paid. Infact, you know that you are really lucky to get the oppertunity to fly the bigger stuff, get to log the time, and get experiences of true commerical flying. Now, let's look at it from your Capt'n point of view, are you really "helping" him out up front? Not really. Sure your on the radios or getting to hand fly or set the autopilot, but he is having to show you and look over your shoulder so you dont screw it up. YOU ARE BEING TAUGHT! YOU ARE GETTING THE EXPERIENCE! What are they getting? Not much .. . That is what I mean by flying for free . . . not "pay for flying" or being hired for free, but getting the oppertunity to fly! To many guys right now think they should be Paid to fly in this situation . . . really????!?!?!??!!? Many of my buddy flight instructors passed up oppertunities like this . . . because they wanted money. Love to hear what you might think. .. . __________________ jerrywhite7 COM, Inst, CFI, CFI-I, MEI FO Metroliner Capt:"If I wanted your opinion I'd give it to you!"