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flyifrvfr · May 31st, 2004, 09:25

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I would tell ATC that mt T/C is inop but I am not declaring an emergency. I would then request vector to my home field with no delay and shoot an ILS. If ATC vectors me all over gods creation or tells me to hold, I would then declare the emergency for priority handling.

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Huh? If you tell them you aren't an emergency and can accept normal ATC vectors, then how would you all of a sudden become an emergency just because you're assigned a hold or other delay? Your situation hasn't changed in the cockpit, assuming you have no other indications of more than just a failed T/C (eg- impending electrical failure).

Also as a sidenote, emergency declaration doesn't always equal being made instant #1 for approach/landing. So better to declare an emergency early if you feel the need to.

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You would be an emergency if the vacuum takes a crap on you. The T/C is your back-up if the vacuum fails. I fly rental planes and some planes I would never take into actual, most rentals don't have a second pump. If the T/C fails, its anybodys guess as to when or if the vacuum goes south. Tell ATC that your T/C has failed and they will ask if you are you declaring an emergency. You then tell them that no emergency now but immediate vectors for the ILS are required. They will go out of their way to avoid needless paperwork and give you anything you want. Also, some controllers will declare an emergency for you and you would never know it. They would not keep you in the air long enough for something else to go wrong, as they know Murphy is your co-pilot that day.

May 31st, 2004, 09:25	#28
flyifrvfr Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 85	Re: What would you do? [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would tell ATC that mt T/C is inop but I am not declaring an emergency. I would then request vector to my home field with no delay and shoot an ILS. If ATC vectors me all over gods creation or tells me to hold, I would then declare the emergency for priority handling. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? If you tell them you aren't an emergency and can accept normal ATC vectors, then how would you all of a sudden become an emergency just because you're assigned a hold or other delay? Your situation hasn't changed in the cockpit, assuming you have no other indications of more than just a failed T/C (eg- impending electrical failure). Also as a sidenote, emergency declaration doesn't always equal being made instant #1 for approach/landing. So better to declare an emergency early if you feel the need to. [/ QUOTE ] You would be an emergency if the vacuum takes a crap on you. The T/C is your back-up if the vacuum fails. I fly rental planes and some planes I would never take into actual, most rentals don't have a second pump. If the T/C fails, its anybodys guess as to when or if the vacuum goes south. Tell ATC that your T/C has failed and they will ask if you are you declaring an emergency. You then tell them that no emergency now but immediate vectors for the ILS are required. They will go out of their way to avoid needless paperwork and give you anything you want. Also, some controllers will declare an emergency for you and you would never know it. They would not keep you in the air long enough for something else to go wrong, as they know Murphy is your co-pilot that day.