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Old December 30th, 2008, 04:53   #59
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Default Re: Noises heard at 41 seconds

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Originally Posted by Hacker15e View Post
In a similar thread over at APC a while back, I asked for civil equivalents of the USAF terminology I've been taught and got a couple weird responses:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ai...ckrides-3.html

For example, one response was that CEFS is actually a speed to fly while airborne after losing an engine and continuing the takeoff (?).



So, there are definitely differences between what the USAF teaches and uses and what the civilian world teaches and uses. My experience is limited to two-engined aircraft, so there is a pretty simple set of three speeds we use for this discussion. I've always thought of them in terms of one being a max speed, one being a minimum speed, and one being an exact speed:



The strangest military/civilian difference I've seen is how I see the term "decision speed" tagged to V1 in several of the forums that are discussing this issue. Seems to me that V1 is the same as "refusal speed", but this may just be another area where terminology between the USAF and the civilian world differs. If that's the case, I can see some serious potential for negative transfer for former USAF pilots going on to fly for the airlines.
There's the Air Force way, and then there's the everybody else way; why they always have to be different, who knows, but it can be a pain in the arse to keep the two distinct when you do both. In any event, I'll be furloughed in a few days anyway so looks like I'm back to the military way!
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